Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Polish term or phrase:
dobra szlacheckie
English translation:
manorial land(s)/estate //demesne
Added to glossary by
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
Jun 24, 2014 13:28
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Polish term
dobra szlacheckie
Polish to English
Law/Patents
Real Estate
Dokumenty dotyczące nabycia nieruchomości. Fragment : "właścicielka dóbr szlacheckich, wpisanych niegdyś w księdze wieczystej xxxxx tom 1 prowadzonej dla nieruchomości położonej w miejscowości xxxx".
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4 | manorial land(s)/estate //demesne | Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. |
3 +1 | gentry estate | Swift Translation |
3 +1 | noble estates | George BuLah (X) |
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Sep 30, 2014 22:32: Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D. Created KOG entry
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manorial land(s)/estate //demesne
Propozycja
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manorial domain
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As the household of the great landowner forms a separate organizational whole from the manorial estate proper, engaged in the production of produce supplied
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Throughout the seventeenth century, as a manorial estate, it was in the hands ... after which the king of Poland reinstated it as a manorial estate, again owned by
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. Germany (Mecklenburg, Pomerania, Prussia), Bohemia, Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine ... (1) Bondage of the peasant serfs to the manorial estate or lord.
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The Roman-Catholic parish located in Czyszki; the Greek-Catholic parish loco; 87 houses; 469 inhabitants; the manorial estate has 381 morga of farmland, 114 .
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the manorial estate system and reinstituted mandatory labor service for serfs. ... As the model country during the second serfdom, Poland provides the best ..
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hrough a detailed description of the case of a former manorial estate in southeastern Poland , she highlights the complexities of property
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the Polish Diet (between 1496 and 1520) which placed an increasing number of legal restrictions on the peasant's ability to leave his or her manorial estat.
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manorial
(in England) a landed estate or territorial unit, originally of the nature of a feudal lordship, consisting of a lord's demesne and of lands within which he has the right to exercise certain privileges, exact certain fees, etc.
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any similar territorial unit in medieval Europe, as a feudal estate.
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In the feudal system the demesne (/dɨˈmeɪn/ di-mayn; from Old French demeine ultimately from Latin dominus, "lord, master of a household")[1] was all the land, not necessarily all contiguous to the manor house, which was retained by a lord of the manor for his own use and support, under his own management, as distinguished from land sub-enfeoffed by him to others as sub-tenants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demesne
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Note added at 1 hr (2014-06-24 14:59:32 GMT)
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manorial domain
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Note added at 8 hrs (2014-06-24 21:50:29 GMT)
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As the household of the great landowner forms a separate organizational whole from the manorial estate proper, engaged in the production of produce supplied
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Throughout the seventeenth century, as a manorial estate, it was in the hands ... after which the king of Poland reinstated it as a manorial estate, again owned by
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. Germany (Mecklenburg, Pomerania, Prussia), Bohemia, Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Ukraine ... (1) Bondage of the peasant serfs to the manorial estate or lord.
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The Roman-Catholic parish located in Czyszki; the Greek-Catholic parish loco; 87 houses; 469 inhabitants; the manorial estate has 381 morga of farmland, 114 .
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the manorial estate system and reinstituted mandatory labor service for serfs. ... As the model country during the second serfdom, Poland provides the best ..
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hrough a detailed description of the case of a former manorial estate in southeastern Poland , she highlights the complexities of property
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the Polish Diet (between 1496 and 1520) which placed an increasing number of legal restrictions on the peasant's ability to leave his or her manorial estat.
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manorial
(in England) a landed estate or territorial unit, originally of the nature of a feudal lordship, consisting of a lord's demesne and of lands within which he has the right to exercise certain privileges, exact certain fees, etc.
2.
any similar territorial unit in medieval Europe, as a feudal estate.
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In the feudal system the demesne (/dɨˈmeɪn/ di-mayn; from Old French demeine ultimately from Latin dominus, "lord, master of a household")[1] was all the land, not necessarily all contiguous to the manor house, which was retained by a lord of the manor for his own use and support, under his own management, as distinguished from land sub-enfeoffed by him to others as sub-tenants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demesne
3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Nie do końca tak napisałam, ale najbliżej. Dziękuję"
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gentry estate
propozycja
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George BuLah (X)
: lajk :)
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noble estates
propozycja
o, tu z małym danielem ...
http://myincrediblejourneys.blogspot.com/2013/06/knole-house...
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w dyskusji tutejszego wątku spotykamy się z niejakim mutowaniem słowa "noble", np. do postaci "nobiliary estates", moim zdaniem - niepotrzebnie, bo wszędzie w opracowaniach natywnych spotykamy postać - "noble-estates" w kontekście
o, tu z małym danielem ...
http://myincrediblejourneys.blogspot.com/2013/06/knole-house...
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w dyskusji tutejszego wątku spotykamy się z niejakim mutowaniem słowa "noble", np. do postaci "nobiliary estates", moim zdaniem - niepotrzebnie, bo wszędzie w opracowaniach natywnych spotykamy postać - "noble-estates" w kontekście
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Monika Wojewoda
: Lajk ode mnie :) Patrz dyskusja powyżej.
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Dziękuję bardzo! :) ... czytam i czytam i tak im zazdroszczę, biorąc pod uwagę moje wisło-prawobrzeżne pochodzenie :)) ... Dzięki, raz jeszcze!
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Discussion
Z drugiej strony kiedy się mówiło o „gentle birth” itp., to wiadomo było, że chodzi o starsze, bardziej ekskluzywne znaczenie — czyli właśnie drobnej i średniej szlachty, mówiąc polskimi kategoriami.
Tak więc i to tłumaczenie nie jest złe.
Tak czy owak koniecznie oryginał w nawiasie.
Dużo też zależy od tego, czy to się pojawia raz i koniec, czy też tekst jest upstrzony bardzo precyzyjnymi odniesieniami i trzeba budować całą siatkę terminologiczną.
Manors w systemie angielskim po prostu sobie istnieją, niezależnie od statusu społecznego ich aktualnego właściciela, którym często jest ktoś z gentry. U nich „nobility” ogranicza się do baronów i wyżej, z pominięciem nawet współmałżonków, dzieci itd., a cała reszta rycerzy, giermków i wszelkich innych władyków jest już w kategorii „commoners” — czyli należy do tzw. gminu — mimo że znajduje się w szczegółowej hierarchii w „gentry”, a nie między kmieciami (yeomen) albo zwykłymi wolnymi posiadaczami (freeholders, ewentualnie franklins).
Stara gentry odpowiada ogółowi szlachty w Polsce, jest to prostu szeroki stan rycerski (niezależnie, czy konkretny delikwent sam jest pasowanym rycerzem). Później do gentry zaliczono prawników, niektórych kupców, absolwentów dobrych uniwersytetów, ostatecznie wszystkich, którzy nie muszą uprawiać ziemi, pracować fizycznie itd.
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3) Peasant communities should be allowed to petition to expel Jews residing on noble-owned estates located near their village. - http://goo.gl/cV2wOq
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The tsarist government combined a real monopoly of formal politics by a central administration, but over noble-owned estates the power of the government was nonexistant - http://quizlet.com/3953052/ap-chapter-18-quiz-flash-cards/
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Modern agricultural methods also raised the productivity of noble-owned estates and peasant farms in Poznania. - http://goo.gl/3tcJ7v
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By the end of the 16th century the agricultural production of the noble-owned estates was replaced by the magnate-owned latifundia - http://www.icape.org/f8-podemska-mikluch.pdf
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Reacting against the encroachments of serfdom, peasants began to flee from noble-owned estates to the open step - http://goo.gl/a4Cf3j
"Only a small number of Lincolnshire men possessed links with members of the
greater aristocracy, and the nature of these ties is often difficult to assess. What is
obvious is that no single nobleman possessed any great power in the county, or among
any significant proportion of the gentry population, The lack of large noble estates in
Lincolnshire was a major factor, but so too may have been the general structure of
county society."