Glossary entry (derived from question below)
English term or phrase:
Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
English answer:
Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
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ysun
Sep 6, 2006 17:03
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Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexencarboxyldehyd
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Cosmetics
Can anybody give me the proper spelling of this term? I think it should at least end in "...dehyde". It appears in a list of ingredients of a cosmetic product. The ingredients are given in English, but the packaging is produced in Germany. Now German chemical terms tend to be really long like this, but it seems doubtful to me in English. Also, I do not get a single hit on Google in any language.
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Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
Correct spelling should be Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde.
See: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenec...
Carboxaldehyde refers to a chemical radical: -CH=O, i.e., a substituted formaldehyde.
Also see cyclohexane carboxaldehyde at: http://leonlab.bio.uci.edu/odorant.cfm?id=190
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Please put in some hyphens and search Hydroxy-methyl-pentyl-cyclohexen-carboxyldehyd on Google, and then enjoy the magic!
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"Carboxyldehyde" is definitely a typo. This compound has nothing to do with "carboxyl", which has the formula of -C(=O)-OH while carboxaldehyde has the formula of -CH=O. Please see definition of "carboxyl" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxyl
Also, please see the structure of one of the isomers of hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde at http://www.iff.com/Ingredients.nsf/0/67B1B80D780230918025699...
By other means, if you search "carboxyldehyde" on Google, you will not get a single hit, but if you search "carboxaldehyde" on Google, you will get about 170,000 hits. If you search "hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde", you will get about 160 hits.
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Please also see this link: http://www.hermal.de/her_en/pages/trolab/trolab_database.php...
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Basically, hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde is an Aldehyde. It can be regarded as a derivative of cyclohexene carboxaldehyde. Cyclohexene has a 6-carbon atom ring and a double bond. There is no position 10 in its ring (6 is the maximum).
Here are the CAS registered names of this compound (CAS No. 31906-04-4):
4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde
Synonyms: 3 and 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexenecarbaldehyde;
See: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenec...
Carboxaldehyde refers to a chemical radical: -CH=O, i.e., a substituted formaldehyde.
Also see cyclohexane carboxaldehyde at: http://leonlab.bio.uci.edu/odorant.cfm?id=190
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Note added at 2 hrs (2006-09-06 20:01:30 GMT)
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Please put in some hyphens and search Hydroxy-methyl-pentyl-cyclohexen-carboxyldehyd on Google, and then enjoy the magic!
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Note added at 14 hrs (2006-09-07 07:53:56 GMT)
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"Carboxyldehyde" is definitely a typo. This compound has nothing to do with "carboxyl", which has the formula of -C(=O)-OH while carboxaldehyde has the formula of -CH=O. Please see definition of "carboxyl" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carboxyl
Also, please see the structure of one of the isomers of hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde at http://www.iff.com/Ingredients.nsf/0/67B1B80D780230918025699...
By other means, if you search "carboxyldehyde" on Google, you will not get a single hit, but if you search "carboxaldehyde" on Google, you will get about 170,000 hits. If you search "hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde", you will get about 160 hits.
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Note added at 15 hrs (2006-09-07 08:16:11 GMT)
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Please also see this link: http://www.hermal.de/her_en/pages/trolab/trolab_database.php...
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Note added at 23 hrs (2006-09-07 16:25:30 GMT)
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Basically, hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde is an Aldehyde. It can be regarded as a derivative of cyclohexene carboxaldehyde. Cyclohexene has a 6-carbon atom ring and a double bond. There is no position 10 in its ring (6 is the maximum).
Here are the CAS registered names of this compound (CAS No. 31906-04-4):
4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde
Synonyms: 3 and 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde; 4-(4-Hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexenecarbaldehyde;
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4-(4-hydroxy-4-methyl pentyl)-3-cyclohexene-10-carboxyldehyde
This is given in a paper by German authors in Journal of Biological Chemistry, with the common name lyral. Absolutely no guarantee it is the same stuff, as those numbers really make a difference! So, low confidence.
Ref (in case the one below is truncated): http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/273/27/16669.pdf#search="Hydr...
Ref (in case the one below is truncated): http://www.jbc.org/cgi/reprint/273/27/16669.pdf#search="Hydr...
Peer comment(s):
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Marie-Hélène Hayles
: yes - I was just about to post along the same lines, having found similar links by googling. It seems the most likely possibility although the asker woud be advised to contact the client.
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Will Matter
: Looks very possible but would agree with MHH that it might be best to contact the client.
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Nesrin
: Hydroxymethylpentylcyclohexenecarboxaldehyde in English (carboxal instead of carboxyl) - brings up 130 Google hits.
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Charlesp
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Veronica Prpic Uhing
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ysun
: Sorry, but I don't think "carboxyldehyde" is a correct term.//Let me tell you cyclohexene doesn't even have a position 10. An error is an error no matter...
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If Journal of Biological Chemistry accepts it... //Indeed it is
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Jörgen Slet
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carboxyaldehyde/carboxaldehyde
I don't think a "carboxyldehyd" group exists :) Most likely a typo.
The rest of the name is OK.
4-(4-hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde
Hydroxyisohexyl-3-cyclohexene carboxaldehyde
HMPCC
CAS no: 31906-04-4
Apparently commercial quality material often contains 2 isomers, that's why the group positions are left unnumbered in your example.
I believe you can write it as a single word os split groups into separate words in English, I've seen both but I'm not familiar with the official conventions.
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Looks like I am mostly repeating information given by David and Nesrin. The unique information I can give is that I don't think you need to contact the client :)
The rest of the name is OK.
4-(4-hydroxy-4-methylpentyl)-3-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde
Hydroxyisohexyl-3-cyclohexene carboxaldehyde
HMPCC
CAS no: 31906-04-4
Apparently commercial quality material often contains 2 isomers, that's why the group positions are left unnumbered in your example.
I believe you can write it as a single word os split groups into separate words in English, I've seen both but I'm not familiar with the official conventions.
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Looks like I am mostly repeating information given by David and Nesrin. The unique information I can give is that I don't think you need to contact the client :)
Discussion
The reason you didn't find it on any English-language sites is that it appears to be "-carboxAl-" not "-carboxyl-" in English.
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