Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
amortissement de caducité
English translation:
impairment depreciation / write-down
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JackieMcC
Feb 28, 2004 12:18
20 yrs ago
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French term
amortissement de caducité
French to English
Bus/Financial
Accounting
Re. compliance with US GAAP:
"X procède aux retraitements suivants par rapport aux normes françaises : annulation des provisions pour garantie totale et ... reclassement des amortissements de caducité en moins de l'actif".
My research so far suggests this depreciation is specific to concession agreements - any further info and suggestions regarding the equiv. term in English would be much appreciated!
"X procède aux retraitements suivants par rapport aux normes françaises : annulation des provisions pour garantie totale et ... reclassement des amortissements de caducité en moins de l'actif".
My research so far suggests this depreciation is specific to concession agreements - any further info and suggestions regarding the equiv. term in English would be much appreciated!
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lenkl
Specializes in field
French term (edited):
amortissement de caducit�
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impairment depreciation / write-down
I don't know what the exact context is but it would appear that the company has taken a depreciation or amortization allowance on certain assets to reflect their obsolescence, whereas I think that FASB rules require that the value of obsolete assets be written-down (meaning a decrease in the value of assets rather than an added expense).
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Note added at 1 day 59 mins (2004-02-29 13:17:26 GMT)
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The sources cited by Counsel and Mary Lalevée seem to indicate that the French practice consists of depreciating an asset that is not normally depreciable (a concession or franchise) and that the restatement your text refers to consisting of treating such depreciation as a write-down. The difference between the two is basically that depreciation reflects the predictable decline in the value of an asset whereas a write-down (or write-off if the value is reduced to zero) records a one-time loss due to impairment or other causes (to further confuse matters, the common French term for write-down is \"dépréciation\").
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Note added at 1 day 59 mins (2004-02-29 13:17:26 GMT)
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The sources cited by Counsel and Mary Lalevée seem to indicate that the French practice consists of depreciating an asset that is not normally depreciable (a concession or franchise) and that the restatement your text refers to consisting of treating such depreciation as a write-down. The difference between the two is basically that depreciation reflects the predictable decline in the value of an asset whereas a write-down (or write-off if the value is reduced to zero) records a one-time loss due to impairment or other causes (to further confuse matters, the common French term for write-down is \"dépréciation\").
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Comment: "Thanks for this very clear explanation - and thanks to everyone for the useful suggestions/comments.(I finally went for "restatement of the obsolescence depreciation as a write-down" "
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French term (edited):
amortissement de caducit�
obsolescence depreciation
caducité = obsolescence
.. The issue for the Court to decide is whether the State Board erred when
it refused to award Brydon additional obsolescence depreciation.2. ...
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... ISSUES. I. Whether SSK?s improvements are entitled to additional. obsolescence
depreciation;. II. ... Id. DISCUSSION: OBSOLESCENCE DEPRECIATION. ...
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... The issue for the Court to decide is whether the State Board erred when it refused
to award obsolescence depreciation to Heart City’s improvements. ...
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Burr Wolff | Tax News
... Indiana Tax Court has affirmed the State Board of Tax Commissioners' determination
to deny the company’s request for additional obsolescence depreciation. ...
.. The issue for the Court to decide is whether the State Board erred when
it refused to award Brydon additional obsolescence depreciation.2. ...
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... ISSUES. I. Whether SSK?s improvements are entitled to additional. obsolescence
depreciation;. II. ... Id. DISCUSSION: OBSOLESCENCE DEPRECIATION. ...
www.state.in.us/judiciary/opinions/ wpd/11130201.tgf.doc - Similar pages
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Converted file tgf
... The issue for the Court to decide is whether the State Board erred when it refused
to award obsolescence depreciation to Heart City’s improvements. ...
www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/ archive/01120401.tgf.html - 22k - Cached - Similar pages
Burr Wolff | Tax News
... Indiana Tax Court has affirmed the State Board of Tax Commissioners' determination
to deny the company’s request for additional obsolescence depreciation. ...
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Suzanne Bréard
Native in French
Law, translation and business converge
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, French to English
French term (edited):
amortissement de caducit�
voir explication
Je suis d'accord avec mes deux collègues. Voici des exemples qui vont dans le même sens:
Termium Finances:
retirement reserve = amortissement accumulé de mise hors service
Dictionnaire de la comptabilité et de la gestion financière (Me Louis Ménard, CA):
Retirement accounting = (Méthode de la) prise en charge lors de la cession. Comptabilité générale. Méthode comptable qui consiste à ne passer en charges le coût d'un bien utilisé pendant un certain nombre d'exercices qu'au moment de sa mise hors service. Note - Selon cette méthode, le montant passé en charges lors de la cession d'un bien est le coût historique du bien cédé et non son coût de remplacement.
Termium Finances:
retirement reserve = amortissement accumulé de mise hors service
Dictionnaire de la comptabilité et de la gestion financière (Me Louis Ménard, CA):
Retirement accounting = (Méthode de la) prise en charge lors de la cession. Comptabilité générale. Méthode comptable qui consiste à ne passer en charges le coût d'un bien utilisé pendant un certain nombre d'exercices qu'au moment de sa mise hors service. Note - Selon cette méthode, le montant passé en charges lors de la cession d'un bien est le coût historique du bien cédé et non son coût de remplacement.
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write-off (of a concession) as a notionally wasting asset
That's my own reading of ->
Memento Pratique Comptable, Francis Lefebvre, para. 4124-1: 'Amort. de cad.: afin de permettre la reconstitution des capitaux investis (capitaux propres et emprunts, est constate un amortissement financier de cad. debite au copmpte 650C... par le credit du compte des droits du concedant exigible en nature
2295 "Mise en concession par le concession par le concessionaire".
Cet amortissement est pratique que le bien soit *amortissable ou non*...
Il est calcule sur le cout de l'imobilisation apres deduction, le cas echeant, des indmenites recues du concedant et des emprunts pris en chatge par le concedant a la fin de la concession..."
Memento Pratique Comptable, Francis Lefebvre, para. 4124-1: 'Amort. de cad.: afin de permettre la reconstitution des capitaux investis (capitaux propres et emprunts, est constate un amortissement financier de cad. debite au copmpte 650C... par le credit du compte des droits du concedant exigible en nature
2295 "Mise en concession par le concession par le concessionaire".
Cet amortissement est pratique que le bien soit *amortissable ou non*...
Il est calcule sur le cout de l'imobilisation apres deduction, le cas echeant, des indmenites recues du concedant et des emprunts pris en chatge par le concedant a la fin de la concession..."
Peer comment(s):
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lenkl
: Good point. See my added note.
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OK - 'write-down as a notionally wasting asset' like a lease, concession etc.
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Mary Lalevee
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Works in field
United Kingdom
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amortisation of assets under gov't franchise
Hi Jackie,
This is what Saxcé proposes.
HTH
Mary
This is what Saxcé proposes.
HTH
Mary
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
lenkl
: A correct definition, but poorly worded. The franchise IS the asset.
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Tom Bishop
Native in English
Technical and commercial translations
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English to French
French term (edited):
amortissement de caducit�
depreciation of final renewal costs
See last para of section g on page 9 (French) and p 35 (English) of Eurotunnel annual accounts 2002 available at:
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