Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

condensat

English translation:

hashcode

Added to glossary by Conor McAuley
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French term

condensat

French to English Law/Patents IT (Information Technology) Document reference OR code produced by IT system?
"Le demandeur accepte les clarifications proposées par la division d’examen. Le demandeur observe que la version de la demande PCT telle que déposée via EPOLINE et ayant pour condensat [very long code or reference, maybe 20/30 characters] était correcte."

It strikes me now that this may now be IT-related, to do with codes produced by the epoline patent communication system, run by the EPO.

Any ideas?

In any case, I don't think "condensate" will do.
Change log

Jan 13, 2022 14:55: Conor McAuley Created KOG entry

Discussion

Conor McAuley (asker) Jan 4, 2022:
Ok, much appreciated, thanks!

I can't give much away regarding my text for obvious reasons.

Marco, looks like you can have the points if your want them.
Emmanuella Jan 4, 2022:
Conor, I was pleased to be helpful.
Conor McAuley (asker) Jan 4, 2022:
Hashcode is right. I think it's a very close call between Marco and Emmanuella who posted the key information first. Can you both post answers and the community can decide regarding points? Is that fair?
Alison MacG Jan 4, 2022:
WIPO uses hash/condensat Le navigateur local crée une empreinte numérique unique (hachage) du fichier au moyen d’un algorithme de hachage unidirectionnel SHA-2 (256 bits).
https://www.wipo.int/pressroom/fr/documents/wipoproof_howto....
WIPO PROOF token. The local browser generates a unique digital fingerprint (a hash) of the file using a strong SHA-2 (256bit), one-way hashing algorithm.
https://www.wipo.int/pressroom/en/documents/wipoproof_howto....
liz askew Jan 4, 2022:

Sécurité informatique: Pour les DSI, RSSI et administrateurshttps://books.google.co.uk › books· Translate this page
Arnaud Souillé, ‎Ary Kokos, ‎Gérôme Billois · 2016 · ‎Computers
En saisissant un mot de passe (alphanumérique) ou un code PIN (numérique). ... Un condensat (hash) est créé à partir du mot de passe par défaut default ...
liz askew Jan 4, 2022:

Condensat (informatique, cryptographie) - Assiste.comhttps://assiste.com › Condensat· Translate this page
Condensat - résultat du calcul d'un code cryptographique, par une fonction de hachage, représentant une clé unique (hashcode, empreinte) d'un contenu (d'un ...
philgoddard Jan 4, 2022:
Emmanuela's reference gives "hashcode", which is a possibility, though I think that's likely to be a coding term and therefore not appropriate here.
Samuël Buysschaert Jan 4, 2022:
Here what i found about what could maybe refer as "condensat" the long code,

On this document PCT demand
there is a section "Applicant’s or agent’s file reference"
https://www.wipo.int/export/sites/www/pct/en/forms/demand/ed...

and if you look at this one:
PCT request
this section "Applicant’s or agent’s file reference":
Applicant’s or agent’s file reference (if desired) (25 characters maximum) might be what condensat is, a sort of identifier code.
https://www.wipo.int/export/sites/www/pct/en/forms/request/e...

File reference might be similar from what you described

https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/guide/ip11.html


https://www.wipo.int/pct/en/guide/ip05.html#_boxII

//
There is also a WIPO PROOF service (condensat/hash suivant la piste d'Emmanuella)
https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/fr/2020/02/article_0001.h...
https://wipoproof.wipo.int/wdts/how-it-works.xhtml?lang=en
https://wipoproof.wipo.int/wdts/how-it-works.xhtml?lang=fr //

Anyway in any case, it refer surely to a kind of code/hash use internally or not.
Conor McAuley (asker) Jan 4, 2022:
I should have clarified -- the patent application has nothing to do with chemistry.
philgoddard Jan 4, 2022:
I had to look up "demande PCT" - it means patent cooperation treaty. But what does the patent relate to? Why don't you think "condensate" will do?
Samuël Buysschaert Jan 4, 2022:
Sans certitude aucune, "condensat" pour "condensation" dans le sens
peut-être condensation de texte, contraction ou synthèse, du code ou de version.
La référence renvoie peut-être à cette version "light" du document.

Reference comments

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Reference:

Does this help

This seems to explain what a "condensat" is in IT and/or cryptography: https://assiste.com/Condensat.html If I knew more about the subject I might be able to find the English equivalent

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Note added at 1 hr (2022-01-04 15:47:32 GMT)
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Perhaps "hash code" will do?

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Note added at 1 hr (2022-01-04 15:51:48 GMT)
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Perhaps "condensate" should not be dismissed either. See https://books.google.ca/books?id=u62hDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA298&lpg=P...
Note from asker:
Marco, looks like you can have the points if your want them. Emmanuella doesn't seem to want them.
Peer comments on this reference comment:

agree Daryo : it is a "hashcode" - definitely // used to uniquely identify a file (the probability of two files generating the same hashcode being extremely low - near zero) and also to verify its integrity (prevent unauthorised modifications)
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