Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
s’autocontrôlent
English translation:
perform self-inspection
Added to glossary by
pooja_chic
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Dec 17, 2010 21:43
13 yrs ago
French term
Translation is depth of the passion
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English to French, Portuguese to English
s’autocontrôlent
French to English
Bus/Financial
Manufacturing
LES CONTROLES EN COURS DE FABRICATION ET FINAUX sont définis par le procédure PFAB-06 « Lancement, fabrication et contrôle des produits fabriqués».
En cours de fabrication, les techniciens s’autocontrôlent suivant les instructions de l’ordre de fabrication. Les résultats du contrôle sont consignés sur l'ordre de fabrication du produit.
En cours de fabrication, les techniciens s’autocontrôlent suivant les instructions de l’ordre de fabrication. Les résultats du contrôle sont consignés sur l'ordre de fabrication du produit.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | perform self-checking |
Tony M
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| 4 | check their work |
cc in nyc
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| 3 | carry out self checks |
philippe vandevivere
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Change log
Dec 17, 2010 22:56: Tony M changed "Field" from "Other" to "Bus/Financial" , "Field (specific)" from "Materials (Plastics, Ceramics, etc.)" to "Manufacturing"
Dec 19, 2010 13:33: pooja_chic Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
14 mins
philippe vandevivere
France
France
Native in French
France
PhD Biotech & process engineer
Native in: French 
Works in: Dutch to French, English to French, Spanish to French, and 3 more.
2 hrs
check their work
IMO, "self-check" sounds too much like 1/ the workers are checking themselves (viz., their bodies, the clothes they are wearing) rather than the work, or 2/ machines that perform diagnostic tests.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2010-12-18 03:23:06 GMT)
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As suggested by Tony_M, "check their own work" is to be considered (but only if the workers are definitely not checking each other's work).
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Note added at 5 hrs (2010-12-18 03:23:06 GMT)
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As suggested by Tony_M, "check their own work" is to be considered (but only if the workers are definitely not checking each other's work).
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Tony M
: Except that I think it's quite important to say 'check their own work'
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Thank you for your comment. It might be important, if that's indeed the case – but it occurred to me that they might be checking each other's work.
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writeaway
: agree with Tony. actually leaving out 'own' is leaving out the 'auto' part of s'autocontrôler'. which basically makes it a mistranslation
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Thank you for your comment.I think that "check their own work" sounds fine, if that's indeed what they are doing. I believe that pooja_chic will know how to handle it.
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B D Finch
: Self-check is a standard term and couldn't be misunderstood, in the way you suggest, by anybody in the workplace. Checking each other's work would be "se contrôlent mutuellement".
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thank you for your comment. it is addressed by the Note I added earlier to the Explanation.
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1 hr
French term (edited):
s’autocontrôlent
perform self-checking
I just think this sounds better, fitted into the overall sentence.
There are plenty of examples on Google — a lot from software contexts, of course, but plenty from QA and similar contexts too.
Although this particular one is from a foreign site, I thought it was sufficiently close to your context to be interesting:
Dei Ming International Co., Ltd
2) assembly line workers perform self-checking, special checking as well as overall technicians quality random checking;. 3) sampling and testing for every ...
www.deiminginternational.com/
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Note added at 2 days33 mins (2010-12-19 22:16:56 GMT)
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auto... definitely does suggest "their own work", otherwise I feel sure the idea of inter-worker checking would be expressed differently in FR.
There are plenty of examples on Google — a lot from software contexts, of course, but plenty from QA and similar contexts too.
Although this particular one is from a foreign site, I thought it was sufficiently close to your context to be interesting:
Dei Ming International Co., Ltd
2) assembly line workers perform self-checking, special checking as well as overall technicians quality random checking;. 3) sampling and testing for every ...
www.deiminginternational.com/
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Note added at 2 days33 mins (2010-12-19 22:16:56 GMT)
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auto... definitely does suggest "their own work", otherwise I feel sure the idea of inter-worker checking would be expressed differently in FR.
Note from asker:
| Thanks Tony...your answer has helped me to search more |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
B D Finch
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Thanks, Barbara!
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| agree |
kashew
: Maybe just "self-check"?
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Thanks, J! Personally, I feel less comofrtable with this neologism as a verb, but there you go...
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cc in nyc
: "Self-checking" sounds to me like the workers are checking themselves (their bodies/clothes)
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I think in the context of the document as a whole, it would not be perversely misread; after all, I didn't suggest "Check themselves", which would indeed lend itself to the interpretation you suggest!
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Discussion
ec.europa.eu/health/files/eudralex/vol-4/pdfs-en/cap9_en.pdf