Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

temps d\'établissement du vide

English translation:

vacuum creation time

Added to glossary by Louisa Tchaicha
Oct 25, 2014 16:00
9 yrs ago
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French term

temps d'établissement du vide

French to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering clapet anti-retour
Hello,

"Pour toutes ces applications, et notamment dans le cas de l'assistance au freinage, un bon maintien de la dépression et un temps d'établissement du vide très court sont des exigences fondementales."

do "void breakage" or "vacuum drawing time" make any sense?

I hope you can help with the suitable term for my context
Thank you

Discussion

chris collister Oct 25, 2014:
Rephrase? Since depression and vacuum are nearly the same thing, consider "A fundamental requirement is that a vacuum must be created very rapidly and (subsequently) maintained over time", to avoid too many adjectival nouns.
Tony M Oct 25, 2014:
Definitely not 'void breakage' If anything, that would imply the opposite!
Chakib Roula Oct 25, 2014:
Vacuum drawing time sounds more relevant.

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vacuum creation time

I think one talks of vacuums being "created". In order to measure the time taken, the degree of vacuum would need to be defined.

www.orved.it/pdf.php?file=VkdQIG1hbnVhbF9tdWx0aS5wZGY=
wheels are provided with brakes). ... It is possible to add a supplementary vacuum creation time which is expressed in seconds, for obtaining the maximum.

www.ircwash.org/sites/default/files/321.4-85EM-2161.pdf
by ABR SCHERTENLEIB - ‎1985 - ‎Related articles
ing systems, a hand operated diaphgram pump and two vacuum tankers in regular service ..... a/ The time required to create a vacuum of 0.5 bar in the 7 m3 P00LE-. Tank when ..... a) Pressure Protection Valve (Air supply from air brake circuit).

www.ivabalte.lt/.../04_Slurry_spreaders_40_pages_part_1_J98...
The type of brake system fitted on your spreader obviously de- ... standard fitted with this type of braking system. .... Filling time. Time to "create a vacuum".

Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Appears to be supported by very few actual Google hits. / Not 'wrong', but certainly suggests it may not be the term in most widespread use.
3 mins
True, but that doesn't make it wrong and it is more elegant than "the time required to create a vacuum", which is another valid way of putting it.// Perhaps it may catch on now I've suggested it. ;)
agree Bashiqa : Simple and to the point
10 hrs
Thanks Bashiqa
agree Duncan Moncrieff
1 day 12 hrs
Thanks Duncan
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time for establishment of a vacuum; time for development of a vacuum

(There is no need to edit the author here, for the English audience.)
Alternative: time for establishment of the vacuum.
Alternative: time for establishment of an underpressure.
("Underpressure" is typically used in English documents to indicate a mild vacuum not particularly close to 0 mmHg.)

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Alternative 3 (to get Google hits, therefore probably best): Time to establish a vacuum.
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Patent CA1156883A1 - Tube coating method and apparatus ...
www.google.com/patents/CA1156883A1?cl=en
Google
The vacuum pump may operate at this time to establish a vacuum in tank 34 while the pipe ls being changed. When the new pipe is in place, valve 44 is opened .
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Sorry, wrong citation. Better:
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Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Technology
books.google.com/books?isbn=1133712991
Bill Whitman, ‎Bill Johnson, ‎John Tomczyk - 2012 - ‎Technology & Engineering
System Schrader valve cores may be removed to shorten the time to establish a vacuum on a system; then the cores may be replaced before the system ..
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Method of and apparatus for storing and preserving granular material
US 3214221 A
www.google.com/patents/US3214221
Google
Of course, the small blower 80 may be employed to establish the vacuum in the first instance, but this procedure will require more time to establish the vacuum.
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Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : 'underpressure' is probably better, note we are talking here simply about 'depression'.
21 mins
Engineers routinely also use "vacuum". It depends on whether the author is a scientist or an engineer.
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French term (edited): temps d\'établissement du vide

vacuum-achievement time

"...a very short vacuum-achievement time..."
Even "time-to-vacuum" would work in this limited context (I do not work for Dyson, honest...).
Peer comment(s):

neutral Tony M : Appears to be supported by very few actual Google hits.
1 hr
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French term (edited): temps d'établissement du vide

pumpdown time

This is certainly used in the field of vacuum pumps, e.g.

Vacuum Technology: Practice for Scientific Instruments

books.google.fr/books?isbn=3540744339

Nagamitsu Yoshimura - 2007 - ‎Science

Abstract [4-3]: Past experiments have shown that the pumpdown time of a vacuum chamber varies with the exposure to moist air. This paper presents a ...

However, I'm not entirely sure if it is the applicable term in your field, which appears to be automotive?

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Gets by far the greatest number of Google hits of all the options suggested so far — I am pretty confident of the term itself, only less sure of its applicability in this specific context.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Duncan Moncrieff : My instinct was you're right, but for typical braking systems the use of a pump is mainly restricted to diesel cars. And the source (a patent http://bit.ly/10uMKZ7) doesn't seem to be specific in this regard.
1 day 16 hrs
Thanks, Duncan! The generic term 'pumpdown' is used even in contexts where there isn't a specific 'pump' as such.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Référence

Dans une action mécanique comparable, ce site parle de
vacuum consolidation
http://www.vibromenard.co.uk/techniques/vacuum-consolidation...
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1 day 16 hrs
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