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“手莫伸,伸手必被捉” -- 陈毅 Feb 4, 2015

《徐才厚同学,如何从同学送空调不敢收到巨额贪腐》
http://www.weibo.com/p/1001603727896291184812
在香港的老同学刘苏民告诉过我,徐才厚的家刚搬到北京的时候,苏民去看他,发现家里只有电风扇,大夏天热得流汗,苏民说,我从香港给你发一台空调吧,徐才厚吓得直摆手:“不行不行,首长家里都没有装空调呢,我哪敢!”说明他当时的心态,还比较谨慎,考虑到自律问题。


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探索新机会 Feb 4, 2015

Zhoudan wrote:

马云是以语言为工具,他的长处并非翻译,也不是靠翻译才做到这么大。他恰恰是不做翻译了才有今天。

J.H. Wang wrote:

所以,看到马云现在的发展状况,同志们是不是更有信心了呢

同意小周的看法。搞翻译的若有新机会也不妨尝试一下,不必一条道走到黑。翻译这行中,恐怕还有成千上万的“彩云”、“祥云”尚未幡然醒悟。


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环境对人的影响很大 Feb 5, 2015

wherestip wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/us/lance-armstrong-cited/index.html

所以依我看,一个人一生究竟是幸福还是倒霉、到头儿来究竟是“座上客”还是臭名远扬("阶下囚") 很难定断。 谁能说一个人人生的演绎与命运完全没有一点儿关系呢?

我想这并不完全是宿命论。 ...



http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/business/of-luck-and-success-economic-view.html?_r=0

Luck vs. Skill: Seeking the Secret of Your Success
By ROBERT H. FRANK
Published: August 4, 2012


THERE may be no topic that more reliably divides liberals and conservatives than the relationship between success and luck. Many conservatives celebrate market success as an almost inevitable consequence of talent and effort. Liberals, by contrast, like to remind us that even talented people who work hard sometimes fall on hard times through no fault of their own.



It’s easy to see why each side is wary of the other’s position. Conservatives, for example, understandably fret that encouraging people to view life as a lottery might encourage them just to sit back and hope for the best. Liberals, for their part, worry that encouraging people to claim an unrealistically large share of the credit for their own success might make them more reluctant to aid the less fortunate.

Both sets of concerns have important implications for public policy, so it would be good to know more about how important luck actually is. Unfortunately, it’s an inherently tough question to answer. But recent experiments suggest that chance events may influence market outcomes far more heavily than previously thought.
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有时候是决定性的,这个我承认。


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Absolutely Feb 5, 2015

J.H. Wang wrote:

环境对人的影响很大

有时候是决定性的,这个我承认。


Say if Jack Ma were born 20 years earlier than he had been**, the outcome of his life story would have been entirely different.

Just think about all the poor kids growing up in abject misery and poverty in a war-torn environment today ...



~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

p.s., ** as it turns out, he was born in the '60s. ... My mistake!


[Edited at 2015-02-06 00:07 GMT]


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吹牛不上税 Feb 5, 2015

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/05/living/feat-brian-williams-memes/index.html

Remembering the good ol' days that never were ...


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外因通过内因起作用 Feb 5, 2015

J.H. Wang wrote:

环境对人的影响很大
wherestip wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/us/lance-armstrong-cited/index.html

所以依我看,一个人一生究竟是幸福还是倒霉、到头儿来究竟是“座上客”还是臭名远扬("阶下囚") 很难定断。 谁能说一个人人生的演绎与命运完全没有一点儿关系呢?

我想这并不完全是宿命论。 ...

有时候是决定性的,这个我承认。

我原来在北京工作时的一位同事,当时看起来是个很规矩的人。在我来美后,他从一名普通工作人员被迅速地提为副处长、处长、副局长,但后来由于贪污(据说金额不大)而被开除党籍和公职。另一位同事是我离开前不久才进公司的大学毕业生。后来她受贿近200万人民币,被判处11年徒刑。据说还有几位同事也因贪污或受贿而被判刑。这些人在掌握一定权力后,就禁不住诱惑,开始以权谋私。他们本来都有很好的工作,大有前途,现在却落到这等地步。我感到十分可惜。


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Class Action Suit Against Alibaba Feb 6, 2015

Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd LLP Files Class Action Suit Against Alibaba Group Holding Limited

http://www.rgrdlaw.com/cases-alibaba.html
On January 30, 2015, Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd LLP filed a complaint alleging violations of the federal securities laws by Alibaba Group Holding Limited and certain of its officers and/or directors. The class action was commenced in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York on behalf of purchasers of Alibaba American Depositary Shares between October 21, 2014 and January 28, 2015 (the “Class Period”).


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相比之下 Feb 6, 2015

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/05/us/vermont-frugal-man-donates-millions/index.html



Vermont man known for frugal ways donates millions
By Stephanie Gallman, CNN

Before Ronald Read died last summer, he was, on several occasions, the benefactor of another person's generosity.

One woman, worried that the same tattered baseball cap he often wore wouldn't be enough to keep him warm in the Vermont winter, knitted him a hat, Read's attorney Laurie Rowell told CNN.

His khaki denim jacket was held together with a safety pin and his flannel shirt was so old, someone once paid for his breakfast at Friendly's.

"The man ahead of him had paid for him," Rowell said, "Based on what he looked like and how he dressed."

Perhaps that's why the man known for his extreme frugality and scruffy appearance decided in the years before his death that he'd do a little giving of his own.

"The estate of Robert Read made its first distributions to Brattleboro Memorial Hospital and the Brooks Library in the amounts of $4.8 million and $1.2 million," Read's attorney said in a press release.

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“做人还是踏实些、安分守己些为好” Feb 6, 2015

wherestip wrote:

... 举个例子吧: 薄熙来 原是我在 北京四中的同一级同学。 当年上高中,他在一班,我在三班。 可是之后我们俩的努力方向和人生经历可说是有天壤之别。

所以我个人觉得做人还是踏实些、安分守己些为好。 一个人想在这辈子中作出一些事业、作出一些成就当然很好,但说到底一个人的一生真正成功与否并不在于能否成名成家、能否出人头地、或是能否成为一个百万富翁。

Steve,

我十分同意你的意见。你那位北京四中老同学本来就不是什么好东西。约六年前我就说过这话,只不过当时没点名,只有你知道我在说谁:
http://www.proz.com/post/1069610#1069610

当年我在北京上大学时,就已经远闻他的臭名与恶行。尽管他显赫了一世,但如今却还不如我们这些平头百姓。不知他此时此刻是什么心情?
http://upload.backchina.com/pictures/13/jpg_1147.jpg

下面这张照片显示的应该是他高中毕业后不久的模样,你应该觉得十分面熟:
http://img.szhk.com/Image/2013/08/26/1377487249839.jpg

记得这里曾有一个专题《对翻译与人生的思考》。以上也算是我对人生的一点思考吧。


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勿须一味追求做人上人 Feb 6, 2015

ysun wrote:


记得这里曾有一个专题《对翻译与人生的思考》。以上也算是我对人生的一点思考吧。



Yueyin,

是这样。咱俩活了大半辈子,又都在中美两种社会制度下长期生活体验过,不免在这种话题上有所感触。




Our greatest happiness does not depend on the condition of life in which chance has placed us, but is always the result of a good conscience, good health, occupation, and freedom in all just pursuits.

- Thomas Jefferson



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知足者常乐 Feb 6, 2015

Steve,

是的。人要往高处走,但不能不择手段、贪得无厌。俗话讲,“万贯家财三顿饭,千栋华厦一张床”。物质需求得到某种程度的满足就可以了。精神愉快、身体健康才是最重要的。


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multiply little lives Feb 6, 2015

wherestip wrote: 勿须一味追求做人上人
ysun wrote:
记得这里曾有一个专题《对翻译与人生的思考》。以上也算是我对人生的一点思考吧。

Yueyin,
是这样。咱俩活了大半辈子,又都在中美两种社会制度下长期生活体验过,不免在这种话题上有所感触。


ysun wrote:知足者常乐

Steve,
是的。人要往高处走,但不能不择手段、贪得无厌。俗话讲,“万贯家财三顿饭,千栋华厦一张床”。物质需求得到某种程度的满足就可以了。精神愉快、身体健康才是最重要的。




感谢 Steve 和 孙先生 与大家分享你们的一些思考和感触;让我不禁联想到荷兰作家 Henri Nouwen,这是几段引述:

“Our society is so fragmented, our family lives so sundered by physical and emotional distance, our friendships so sporadic, our intimacies so 'in-between' things and often so utilitarian, that there are few places where we can feel truly safe…”

“First of all, you have to keep unmasking the world about you for what it is: manipulative, controlling, power-hungry, and, in the long run, destructive. The world tells you many lies about who you are, and you simply have to be realistic enough to remind yourself of this. Every time you feel hurt, offended, or rejected, you have to dare to say to yourself: 'These feelings, strong as they may be, are not telling me the truth about myself…”

“Over the years, I have come to realize that the greatest trap in our life is not success, popularity, or power, but self-rejection. Success, popularity, and power can indeed present a great temptation, but their seductive quality often comes from the way they are part of the much larger temptation to self-rejection. When we have come to believe in the voices that call us worthless and unlovable, then success, popularity, and power are easily perceived as attractive solutions. The real trap, however, is self-rejection…”

“Our humanity comes to its fullest bloom in giving. We become beautiful people when we give whatever we can give: a smile, a handshake, a kiss, an embrace, a word of love, a present, a part of our life...all of our life…”

______ Henri J.M. Nouwen





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成功、权力、特权? Feb 9, 2015

曾经有人对人类追求 “成功” 有这样的看法:
“人类为逃避存在的焦虑往往会沉溺于各式各样的事物,我们用成功、权力、特权、药物、酒精、宗教、工作、性、国家、家庭来塑造偶像。当我们忘情地沉溺于这些俗务时,便似无须面对死亡与有限的困境。 但和古罗马的杰纳斯神一样, 我们的偶像也有两面。一面终将显露其邪恶的本性,背叛其崇拜者,将之弃于更大的绝望中。”

”解决存在的焦虑,或克服对死亡的恐惧,唯一的方式就是真正好好地活在现在。“

”代表古老东方智慧的老子说过:“勇于敢则杀,勇于不敢则活。”

- "Well Being" (中译书名:人生的七个大梦) by Dr. Howard Clinebell

对了,我回来了,你们都好吗?念念。 一个多月回乡省亲的日子,好像用手在河边拿水喝,清凉爽快一时,却发觉水会很快从指缝间溜走。

不期然想著下次再喝水的日子。 :)

不过,在那个日子到来之前,会和大家分享一下旅途的一些有趣经历和感想。

QHE wrote:

感谢 Steve 和 孙先生 与大家分享你们的一些思考和感触;让我不禁联想到荷兰作家 Henri Nouwen,这是几段引述:

“Our society is so fragmented, our family lives so sundered by physical and emotional distance, our friendships so sporadic, our intimacies so 'in-between' things and often so utilitarian, that there are few places where we can feel truly safe…”

“First of all, you have to keep unmasking the world about you for what it is: manipulative, controlling, power-hungry, and, in the long run, destructive. The world tells you many lies about who you are, and you simply have to be realistic enough to remind yourself of this. Every time you feel hurt, offended, or rejected, you have to dare to say to yourself: 'These feelings, strong as they may be, are not telling me the truth about myself…”

“Over the years, I have come to realize that the greatest trap in our life is not success, popularity, or power, but self-rejection. Success, popularity, and power can indeed present a great temptation, but their seductive quality often comes from the way they are part of the much larger temptation to self-rejection. When we have come to believe in the voices that call us worthless and unlovable, then success, popularity, and power are easily perceived as attractive solutions. The real trap, however, is self-rejection…”

“Our humanity comes to its fullest bloom in giving. We become beautiful people when we give whatever we can give: a smile, a handshake, a kiss, an embrace, a word of love, a present, a part of our life...all of our life…”

______ Henri J.M. Nouwen





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我有点晕 Feb 10, 2015

David Lin wrote:


对了,我回来了,你们都好吗?念念。 一个多月回乡省亲的日子,好像用手在河边拿水喝,清凉爽快一时,却发觉水会很快从指缝间溜走。



David 兄,

这一段时间你和 Rita 都没有在论坛上露面,我还以为怎么了呢!呵呵。本想写信问一下,又觉得可能不合适。现在放心了,呵呵。


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没有监督 Feb 10, 2015

记得十多年前,有个老朋友说有个国企老总辞职了,这老总说,在那个位置继续做下去,迟早要坐牢,因为诱惑太大了,趁着现在没伸手,赶紧下来,免得将来后悔。


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我原来在北京工作时的一位同事,当时看起来是个很规矩的人。在我来美后,他从一名普通工作人员被迅速地提为副处长、处长、副局长,但后来由于贪污(据说金额不大)而被开除党籍和公职。另一位同事是我离开前不久才进公司的大学毕业生。后来她受贿近200万人民币,被判处11年徒刑。据说还有几位同事也因贪污或受贿而被判刑。这些人在掌握一定权力后,就禁不住诱惑,开始以权谋私。他们本来都有很好的工作,大有前途,现在却落到这等地步。我感到十分可惜。


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