écrin

English translation: box, case

21:42 Mar 28, 2024
French to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Other / Sewing
French term or phrase: écrin
Hi everyone,

Is this more of a sewing basket or a sewing box? The original sentence is:

Ivoire se saisit de l’écrin, le cala sur sa hanche et partit à la recherche de Démesure.

Thank you!
Saliha18
Local time: 19:41
English translation:box, case
Explanation:
If you go back 5 pages from where you are, you'll find (and must surely have seen and translated) boîte à rubans, subsequently referred to as just boîte two lines ahead of écrin. Given the antics these ribbons get up to in the intervening pages, I tend to see the 'box' more as one of those baskets snake charmers charm cobras out of, but that is by-the-bye.

If you want to avoid repetition of 'box' (or whatever you have used previously), you could say 'case' maybe, like the écrin rings, collector coins, etc. come in. In this house, however, my ribbon box (I'm one of those hoarders who prefers to keep ribbons from the family's Christmas and birthday presents, hampers of French wines and delicacies, etc. rather than throw them away; you never know when they will come in handy ... and they DO) is actually one of those cardboard L'Occitane toiletries boxes.

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Claquement funeste suggests that the box/case is made of wood, at least something solid and heavy enough to make a noise when the lid is released, unless it is spring-loaded like those velvet-covered plastic boxes. Definitely not a cardboard L'Occitane box.
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Bourth
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Local time: 20:41
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Summary of answers provided
4 +3box, case
Bourth
4 +1jewellery case, jewellery box
Anastasia Kalantzi
Summary of reference entries provided
A bit of context
Althea Draper

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
l’écrin
jewellery case, jewellery box


Explanation:
écrin nm. (boîte de bijou) case, box n. (UK) jewellery case, jewellery box n.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=8997844...
https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/comme-une-perle-en-s...

Anastasia Kalantzi
Greece
Local time: 21:41
Native speaker of: Greek

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Yvonne Gallagher: just "case" or more likely "box" (of ribbons)
17 hrs
  -> That would also be just fine and much more appropriate to this case. Many thanks! 🤗
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
l’écrin
box, case


Explanation:
If you go back 5 pages from where you are, you'll find (and must surely have seen and translated) boîte à rubans, subsequently referred to as just boîte two lines ahead of écrin. Given the antics these ribbons get up to in the intervening pages, I tend to see the 'box' more as one of those baskets snake charmers charm cobras out of, but that is by-the-bye.

If you want to avoid repetition of 'box' (or whatever you have used previously), you could say 'case' maybe, like the écrin rings, collector coins, etc. come in. In this house, however, my ribbon box (I'm one of those hoarders who prefers to keep ribbons from the family's Christmas and birthday presents, hampers of French wines and delicacies, etc. rather than throw them away; you never know when they will come in handy ... and they DO) is actually one of those cardboard L'Occitane toiletries boxes.

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Note added at 44 mins (2024-03-28 22:27:04 GMT)
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Note added at 51 mins (2024-03-28 22:33:50 GMT)
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Claquement funeste suggests that the box/case is made of wood, at least something solid and heavy enough to make a noise when the lid is released, unless it is spring-loaded like those velvet-covered plastic boxes. Definitely not a cardboard L'Occitane box.

Bourth
France
Local time: 20:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 8
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Thank you for such a thoughtful answer!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Beatriz Ramírez de Haro
1 hr

agree  Philippa Smith
10 hrs

agree  philgoddard
16 hrs
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Reference comments


59 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: A bit of context

Reference information:
"La Coryphée s'extirpa de son fauteuil à contrecœur, pointa le coffret d'un doigt vengeur et dilata son œil-fin : les rubans étalés sur le sol filèrent se réfugier au fond de leur boîte et le couvercle retomba dans un claquement funeste . Ivoire se saisit de l'écrin , le cala sur sa hanche et partit à la recherche de Démesure. Sitôt mis au courant de sa décision, le tailleur s'empressa de la vouer à tous les Jouets de la création."

The text for this and the previous question comes from the book Plein-Ciel
By Siècle Vaëlban, Elsa Roman.


    Reference: http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=u6fxEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT22&lpg=...
Althea Draper
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

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agree  philgoddard: Thanks! So It's just a way to avoid repeating 'boîte'.
16 hrs
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