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Spanish term
se le ha encajado
Spanish to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
From a text on "arbitrary law"
A principios del siglo XVII Covarrubias recoge la acepción popular 'Ley del encaje' para referirse a «la resolución que un juez toma por lo que a él se le ha encajado en la cabeza, sin tener atención a lo que las leyes disponen». Con el paso del tiempo tal acepción se ha extendido a todo «dictamen o juicio que discrecionalmente forma el juez, sin atender a lo que las leyes disponen»
I'm not sure if this means "based on what he has gotten into his head" or "what was put in his head/mind"? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
A principios del siglo XVII Covarrubias recoge la acepción popular 'Ley del encaje' para referirse a «la resolución que un juez toma por lo que a él se le ha encajado en la cabeza, sin tener atención a lo que las leyes disponen». Con el paso del tiempo tal acepción se ha extendido a todo «dictamen o juicio que discrecionalmente forma el juez, sin atender a lo que las leyes disponen»
I'm not sure if this means "based on what he has gotten into his head" or "what was put in his head/mind"? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +3 | as he (arbitraliy) saw fit |
David Hollywood
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| 3 +1 | according to his whim |
Angelo Berbotto
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| 3 | he had been planted |
Adrian MM.
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| 3 | placed with a fixed judgement |
Lisa Rosengard
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References
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Proposed translations
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4 hrs
David Hollywood
Native in English
Works in field
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
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as he (arbitraliy) saw fit
I would say
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:36:07 GMT)
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in other words, the judge didn't base his (her sadly unlikely for this period) decision on valid legal arguments but rather as he saw it (pictured it in his head)
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:36:49 GMT)
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now would you like to be in the dock?
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:38:52 GMT)
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and should read "arbitrarily" of course
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:40:10 GMT)
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arbitrarily
on the basis of random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:47:20 GMT)
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"saw fit" literally meaning "as he deemed appropriate" but in your context can be extended to cover the arbitrary aspect
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:36:07 GMT)
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in other words, the judge didn't base his (her sadly unlikely for this period) decision on valid legal arguments but rather as he saw it (pictured it in his head)
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:36:49 GMT)
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now would you like to be in the dock?
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:38:52 GMT)
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and should read "arbitrarily" of course
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:40:10 GMT)
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arbitrarily
on the basis of random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2021-08-30 02:47:20 GMT)
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"saw fit" literally meaning "as he deemed appropriate" but in your context can be extended to cover the arbitrary aspect
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Comment: "Thanks so much to everyone"
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14 hrs
Angelo Berbotto
Australia
Australia
Native in Spanish
Specializes in field
Australia
A lawyer for your legal translations
Native in: Spanish (Variants: Argentine, Rioplatense, Uruguayan, Standard-Spain, Canarian) 
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, Italian to English, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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131
according to his whim
La idea de que se la ha encajado (metido) en la cabeza, me hace pensar en un capricho, porque no toma en cuenta la ley, por eso propongo according to his whim / fancy
18 hrs
Adrian MM.
Austria
Austria
Native in English
Specializes in field
Austria
Retd.T&I, Barrister & Austro-Advokat
Native in: English (Variants: British, Scottish) 
Works in: Spanish to English, English to Spanish, French to English, and 5 more.
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586
Spanish term (edited):
a él se le ha encajado
he had been planted
... vs. ended up planting > in his own mind.
The reflexive prefixed by 'a él' implies mainly "based on what he has AmE gotten BrE into his head" plus a bit of "what had been put in his head/mind".
dictamen o juicio que discrecionalmente forma el juez : the judge had been swayed by his or her own internalis/zed opinion as well as by an external agent, such as the arguments of Counsel or by what 'he or she had for breakfast'..
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BrE got ...
The reflexive prefixed by 'a él' implies mainly "based on what he has AmE gotten BrE into his head" plus a bit of "what had been put in his head/mind".
dictamen o juicio que discrecionalmente forma el juez : the judge had been swayed by his or her own internalis/zed opinion as well as by an external agent, such as the arguments of Counsel or by what 'he or she had for breakfast'..
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BrE got ...
Example sentence:
.. then you've had an idea planted in your mind.
16 hrs
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
United Kingdom
experienced and well qualified linguist
Native in: English (Variant: UK)
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Spanish, and 3 more.
Related KudoZ points
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36
placed with a fixed judgement
The source text suggests:
'At the beginning of the 17th century Covarrubias incorporated the popular definition 'a law with a discretional or discreet judgement, legal report or opinion, with little consideration of procedural law, alluding to a decision made by a judge, by which he has a fixed judgement, regardless of the relevant laws'. As time passed, such a definition has been included in all legal opinions (dicatamens), decisions or reports, from which a judge may be formed discretionally or discreetly."
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The judge formed the opinion discreetly or with discretion.
(El juez formó la decisión discretamente o con discreción.)
'At the beginning of the 17th century Covarrubias incorporated the popular definition 'a law with a discretional or discreet judgement, legal report or opinion, with little consideration of procedural law, alluding to a decision made by a judge, by which he has a fixed judgement, regardless of the relevant laws'. As time passed, such a definition has been included in all legal opinions (dicatamens), decisions or reports, from which a judge may be formed discretionally or discreetly."
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The judge formed the opinion discreetly or with discretion.
(El juez formó la decisión discretamente o con discreción.)
Example sentence:
esp: 'A principios del siglo diecisiete, Covarrubias incorpora el sentido de la ley de encaje, incluyendo una resolución de un juez, por la cual tiene un juicio fijado e independiente de las leyes pertinentes'.
'Con el paso de tiempo, dicho sentido se incluye en todos dictámenes o juicios de los cuales un juez puede formarse discrecionalmente o discretamente.'
Reference comments
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Reference:
Es expresión arcaica
Sale en el Quijote, en muy similares términos.
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Ya a principios del siglo XVII Covarrubias recoge la acepción popular 'Ley del encaje' para referirse a «la resolución que un juez toma por lo que a él se le ha encajado en la cabeza, sin tener atención a lo que las leyes disponen». ...4 dic. 2010
https://www.eldiariomontanes.es › ...
Ley del encaje | El Diario Montañes
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