Feb 28, 2022 01:25
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English term
not hereby or by any codicil hereto otherwise
English to Spanish
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Wills
Hi, can someone help me to detangle this sentence?
It reads as follows:
"I GIVE DEVISE AND BEQUEATH all my real Estate whatsoever and wheresoever ***not hereby or by any codicil hereto otherwise*** specifically disposed of to my wife....
It reads as follows:
"I GIVE DEVISE AND BEQUEATH all my real Estate whatsoever and wheresoever ***not hereby or by any codicil hereto otherwise*** specifically disposed of to my wife....
Proposed translations
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que no se haya legado de otra forma por el presente u otro codicilio, a mi esposa
It's difficult to conclude more confidently because there is not enough context to do so. I think Adrian's analysis is good, but I felt the 'comma' should come after 'disposed of' rather than 'wife' (first 'comma' would be after 'wheresoever' and second comma after 'disposed of').
If he is leaving everything in his will to his wife except for some clauses specified in the will, then this suggestion is correct.
If he is leaving everything in his will to others except for some clauses specified in the will benefiting his wife, then Adrian's suggestion is correct.
It depends on your understanding of the wider context.
If he is leaving everything in his will to his wife except for some clauses specified in the will, then this suggestion is correct.
If he is leaving everything in his will to others except for some clauses specified in the will benefiting his wife, then Adrian's suggestion is correct.
It depends on your understanding of the wider context.
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Comment: "Muchas gracias por tu aportación, me ha servido mucho."
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David Hollywood
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no por la presente o cualquier (otro) codicilio/modificación de lo contrario
ok IMO
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Note added at 28 mins (2022-02-28 01:53:40 GMT)
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o: por el contrario
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y posiblemente "ni"
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Note added at 31 mins (2022-02-28 01:56:18 GMT)
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vamos hispanohablantes
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Note added at 46 mins (2022-02-28 02:11:14 GMT)
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ojo que estoy traduciendo la frase que pusiste....en tu contexto completo significa que la esposa va a recibir todo
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Note added at 28 mins (2022-02-28 01:53:40 GMT)
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o: por el contrario
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Note added at 30 mins (2022-02-28 01:55:57 GMT)
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y posiblemente "ni"
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Note added at 31 mins (2022-02-28 01:56:18 GMT)
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vamos hispanohablantes
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Note added at 46 mins (2022-02-28 02:11:14 GMT)
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ojo que estoy traduciendo la frase que pusiste....en tu contexto completo significa que la esposa va a recibir todo
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Adrian MM.
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English term (edited):
not hereby or by any codicil hereto otherwise specifically disposed of to my wife
que no se haya legado a mi esposa a título particular mediante este testamento o codicil/i/o a éste
I agree with John R. about expanding the phrase.
> modificación de éste is wider and could, besides a codicil, mean an amendment or interlineation or, controversially, a half-secret trust referred to in the Will and leaving property to a secret beneficiary.
Legado as a testamentary disposition of chattels, goods or money (bequest or legacy) vs. a devise of land rather than enajenado query: as a lifetime dealing,
though I wonder whether a later Will clause refer to 'property undisposed of', namely any forgotten by the Testator or which he comes into or inherits after the making of the Will.
> modificación de éste is wider and could, besides a codicil, mean an amendment or interlineation or, controversially, a half-secret trust referred to in the Will and leaving property to a secret beneficiary.
Legado as a testamentary disposition of chattels, goods or money (bequest or legacy) vs. a devise of land rather than enajenado query: as a lifetime dealing,
though I wonder whether a later Will clause refer to 'property undisposed of', namely any forgotten by the Testator or which he comes into or inherits after the making of the Will.
Example sentence:
Desde un punto de vista descriptivo se podría definir el legado como una disposición testamentaria a título particular por el cual el testador beneficia a determinadas personas.
El codicilo puede complementar el testamento, pero no puede nombrar ni revocar herederos o albacea universal.
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Peer comment(s):
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Mónica Algazi
: También de acuerdo con John Rynne.
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Gracias, Mónica, and thanks !
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Alex Ossa
: Estoy de acuerdo con que se debe expandir la frase pero creo que corresponde una coma después de "disposed of" en vez de "esposa". O sea todo a su esposa excepto lo epecificamente dispuesto de otra forma.
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si, Alejandra, es verdad, pero no es *otro* codicilio, sino cualquier codicilio al presente testamento !
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Discussion
So it's impossible to just translate the query phrase in isolation