Poll: How often do you spend +30 min. researching a single obscure term or phrase? Postavljač teme: ProZ.com Staff
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It hasn’t been very often of late. First of all, because work has been scarce. Secondly, after more than 40 years in the profession, I don’t very often come across terms that are completely unfamiliar to me, apart from neologisms which occasionally require some research. I must say that I like to spend as much time as necessary until I’m convinced I’ve found the correct term…
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Zea_Mays 
Italija
Local time: 22:37
engleski na njemački
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I've been very active in trying to answer KudoZ questions in the past, and it could happen that I had to do very thorough research in order to prove my contributions. This has not changed but I'm no longer that active in this site section - and questions have been decreasing too.
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| The correct answer is… | Aug 18 |
… as often as is necessary. Which shouldn’t be very often.
With AI, it’s easier to get some initial suggestions that you then corroborate, making this a less frequent occurrence.
(See, I’m not a total dinosaur.)
But you get to a stage as a translator when the only terms that really trouble you are the ones that have been used incorrectly by the author…
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Daryo
Local time: 21:37
srpski na engleski
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at least not because I would need it myself for a translation.
As for 'obscure' ... once one single word very commonly used in Serbian send me into an hours long wading through paper dictionaries (yes it was that long ago).
OK that one was an extreme case, but a good illustration that a term does not need to be 'obscure' - even some very 'common' term can unexpectedly turn into a very tough nut to crack.
Some past Kudoz questions happened to be real... See more at least not because I would need it myself for a translation.
As for 'obscure' ... once one single word very commonly used in Serbian send me into an hours long wading through paper dictionaries (yes it was that long ago).
OK that one was an extreme case, but a good illustration that a term does not need to be 'obscure' - even some very 'common' term can unexpectedly turn into a very tough nut to crack.
Some past Kudoz questions happened to be really interesting - a proper puzzle hard to solve. Lately there is only a trickle of Kudoz questions, and not much interesting - too easy to decipher so no '+30 min. researching' there. ▲ Collapse
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Gregor Trebec
Slovenija
Local time: 22:37
engleski na slovenski
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It works! I bet that it is a hacker attack, not bugs.
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Michael Newton
Sjedinjene Američke Države
Local time: 16:37
japanski na engleski
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| single obscure phrase | Aug 22 |
A hacker attack? Who in their right mind would ever want to hack proz.com? As if there were something to be gained.
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Kaspars Melkis
Ujedinjeno Kraljevstvo
Local time: 21:37
engleski na latvijski
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I recently spent more than 30 minutes trying to understand the difference between two grammatical variants of a single word.
Both forms were correct but with slight difference in nuance. The exact difference was not entirely clear to me. ChatGPT explanations became circular showing that it does not reason but only extracts the summary from all possible discussions about this issue. I gave up. I would need to do a bigger study to make sure I choose the form that works best in the giv... See more I recently spent more than 30 minutes trying to understand the difference between two grammatical variants of a single word.
Both forms were correct but with slight difference in nuance. The exact difference was not entirely clear to me. ChatGPT explanations became circular showing that it does not reason but only extracts the summary from all possible discussions about this issue. I gave up. I would need to do a bigger study to make sure I choose the form that works best in the given text. ▲ Collapse
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Gregor Trebec
Slovenija
Local time: 22:37
engleski na slovenski
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Michael Newton wrote:
A hacker attack? Who in their right mind would ever want to hack proz.com? As if there were something to be gained.
I am not an expert but i believe the goal is also to disrupt...
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Daryo
Local time: 21:37
srpski na engleski
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| Surprise! Surprise! | Aug 31 |
Kaspars Melkis wrote:
I recently spent more than 30 minutes trying to understand the difference between two grammatical variants of a single word.
Both forms were correct but with slight difference in nuance. The exact difference was not entirely clear to me. ChatGPT explanations became circular showing that it does not reason but only extracts the summary from all possible discussions about this issue. I gave up. I would need to do a bigger study to make sure I choose the form that works best in the given text.
ChatGPT explanations became circular showing that it does not reason but only extracts the summary from all possible discussions about this issue
How unexpected!
I would guess it was a word in English? There is a number of websites where you can find detailed explanations for every 'nuance of meaning / use case' for expressions used in English. So far they never let me down.
If you compare what two or three of them have to say you'll usually find only minor differences AND it's all 'contributed' (at least so far) by actual people who actually know what they are talking about.
NOT by some more or less advanced statistical algorithm that only 'knows' how to probabilistically rehash randomly collected information (and occasionally and unpredictably 'enhance them' with random confabulations). You could as well ask for help someone who memorised a huge mountain of data but can only shuffle words around without having the first clue about their actual meaning.
Try ignoring 'easy shortcuts' and maybe you won't have to give up?
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